Amazon.com: Stephen De Young: books, biography, latest update Yeah, so why? Fr. And our purpose is as St. Johns purpose: These are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ and that, believing, you may have life in his name. Thats the purpose of this podcast. We just walked through the Day of Atonement ritual, the goat for Yahweh, the goat for Azazel, and what those things mean. [Laughter] And the reason they pushed him off a cliff or a crag was the very practical problem of: What do you do if the goat gets loose and wanders back into down? Im just pointing out that you asked a perfectly logical question based on a bad translation. "Atonement" is a word invented for the translation of the Bible into English, because there was no good English word for the concept it describes. C. M. Furey et al (Berlin/Boston: Walter de Gruyter, 2021), 909913. Fr. This is so cool. They meant, at the time, was putting man and God together at one. That was the intention. The goat is notthis goat is not punished or abused in any way. Dr. Stephen De Young is Pastor of Archangel Gabriel . Its just a practical thing. Stephen? Andrew: The Savior, yes. About Fr. Stephen: Yeah, but were not just playing the Nope card. Because obviously, if you interpret it purely as related to sins and the forgiveness of sins, then not everyone in the world has their sins forgiven, but And so you have to And thats where Peter Lombard in the eleventh century comes up with the idea of sufficiency and efficiency, that Christs sacrifice is sufficient for the world but not efficient for the world, and on and on and on. Fr. The answer, according to Fr. Fr. Stephen: Sin leaves a taint, not just on us. Fr. Why is that aww! Im just going to say that at the outset. Andrew: Yeah, right! Fr. And people may have heard of the mostly later tradition where theyd tie a rope to the person, to the high priest, in case he wasnt so pure and he dropped dead and they had to drag him out. Stephen: I know you really want Goat Week to be a thing. So hes not sacrificed to Azazel. Fr. So it does end up being germane to our topic this evening. Theres a text variant there as to whether it says monon or monn. Its not Yeah. So then what does the actual ritual itself look like? So this sort of has positive connotations. Stephen writes in the preface, the Orthodox Churchproclaims that its liturgical ritual and way of life are in complete continuity with that of the apostles This book makes that case. Then the books conclusion has a couple pages suggesting that the Eastern Orthodox Church of today is the most faithful continuation of the apostles legacy. So hes using atonement in this biblical sense weve been talking about, of purification, but Christ does it by living it. Special request. Fr. Andrew Damick, Michael Landsman, and Ancient Faith Radio, Fr. Partially reviewing what the paper states about the Bible specifically. 15K views Streamed 1 year ago Fr. Fr. What happens next? The more I learned about scripture, the more I felt the need for additional guidance on both the holy messages and the contextsculture, history, languages, geography, etc. Dan: Oh, yeah, Im here! Stephen De Young begins the discussion of Romans 1. How does God make it happen?. Andrew Stephen Damick and Fr. Fr. Fr. That was bad for you! [Laughter] Yeah, so Azazel is caught up in all this. Well, again, weve got you coveredand no, I will not get tired of that joke. Facebook Religion of the Apostles: Orthodox Christianity in the First Century But, yeah, the goat for Azazel has sins placed upon it, in contrast for the goat for Yahweh. Fr. Photius: Yes, sir. But in terms of using the term and talking about it as a concept, 1 John is the place. Instagram, RSS & iTunes [Laughter] But, yeah, okay, so to wrap up, then, just some final thoughts. The views of select philosophers and theologians on the implications of the Mesopotamian and apocryphal texts in the testaments will be explored. And I looked this up: what is the earliest use of this word? Photius, welcome to The Lord of Spirits podcast. So now were going to talk about how, number one, they actually didnt get it quite right, but what is the concept that that word is attempting to point to? Fr. Fr. ,and Stephen: So where combinations have been made. Can you hear me? Well, who would have been doing this? Fr. Fr. Dr. Stephen De Young is Pastor of Archangel Gabriel Orthodox Church in Lafayette, Louisiana. Yeah, and I mean, people do that all the time, like they say theres three wise men. Stephen: Right, so as I mentioned, all of our earliest sort of interpreters within the Jewish world who talk about Azazel have him as this being, this actual demonic being, and the most prominent places where hes discussed in terms of what Second Temple literature are focusing on are 1 Enoch, whats called 2 Enoch or Slavonic Enoch, and the Apocalypse of Abraham. Fr. Stephen: Yeah, and note that its not just Jews who are doing these Day of Atonement things. One of them Im going to sacrifice, so that one we go and we lay hands on it to say: This is the sheep that were going to offer to God. Fr. Fr. And this is very important, because, in our modern era, a lot of people will take these descriptions of what happens at Christs death, and the hymns about them that were going to sing in Holy Week in a few weeks, and label them as anti-Semitic. Fr. The Religion of the Apostles: Orthodox Christianity in the First St. John himself said, You cant write down every single thing Jesus did and said. So, yeah, its literally the Day of AtoCovering. Do Orthodox Christians have any teaching on atonement? So some people will try to will want to translate Azazel, instead of seeing it as a name, as a proper name, will want to translate it as something like the goat who goes away. This is where scapegoat comes from, because scape- like escape. Escape is go away: the goat that goes away. Stephen: When a pe gets doubled, it gets pronounced like a P instead of an F. Thats why its usually written with two Ps. Fr. Im like, why dont we start with: What does the Bible say? Hes coming; we have to get ready. These studies were recorded live and include questions from his audience. Andrew: Cool. Now that dome is expanded to encompass the whole world, because Christnot only does he not just send the stuff back to Azazel, he gets rid of Azazel. Stephen De Young and Ancient Faith Ministries. Andrew: Yeah, so someone comes in: So what did you do, pal? [Laughter], Fr. That is the place where it is most key that this happens within the sanctuary. This video is sponsored by Faithful Counseling. In God Is a Man of War, Fr. But of course, what is impossible for man is possible for God. Stephen: Yes, involving metallurgy for weapons of war and those kind of things. Many people dive into discussions about giants without defining the key term: Just what is a giant? Dan: Yeah, yeah, thats really helpful. On the Origin of Watchers: A Comparative Study of the Antediluvian Wisdom in Mesopotamian and Jewish Traditions, The Antediluvian Origin of Evil in the Mesopotamian and Jewish Traditions A Comparative Study, Response to Ken Ammi's review of my paper - "Were the Nephilim Genetically Psychopathic? Is atonement purely theoretical? Consequently, I greeted the arrival of Fr. I know. Genesis, 6:1-4. Fr. And if youre listening to us live, you can call in at 855-AF-RADIO; thats 855-237-2346, and we will get to your calls in the second part of todays show. But, right, so atonement, at-one-ment: I looked this up, so I have on my desk a gigantic dictionary called the Oxford English Dictionary. Andrew: Alas. Fr. Stephen: Yeah, I mean you may have to deal with this mercy-seat stuff, but now you know how that works, so youre all set for Leviticus. Okay, so St. Matthew, he talks about Christ as being the goat that gets sent off to Azazel, right? I am the biggest nerd anyone will ever meet. Its really cool. I did believe the doctrine of the Trinity was in the OT, but in a latent or implicit form. Youve got Jerusalem as an established city. This isnt just an intellectual maneuver; this is something we can experience and participate in in real time, and thats what Lent and Holy Week and Pascha are going to be all about. So Greek words in the New Testament are treated as these sort of independent entities without reference to what theyre translating, and then that allows you to pack a whole bunch of things in. Im like, its: You have two goats And now theres going to be all these rumors: See? And I say spiritual being because it includes in a couple cases its gods and in a couple cases its dead people, the spirits of deceased people, where there has been some issue between them and a living person, so some sort of offering is made to mend that relationship. Five-ish Angelic Falls and Three Human Falls - Copious Flowers Stephen: [Laughter] Uh-oh! Stephen: John 17, 18, and 19 also talks about this same idea, where Christthis is in the contextthis is part of the long reading on Holy Thursday eveningwhere Christ isthis is sometimes referred to as Christs high priestly prayer, appropriately enoughand Christ says in verses 18 and 19, As you sent me into the world, I have also sent them into the world, and for their sakes, I sanctify myself, that they also may be sanctified by the truth. And of course the truth in St. Johns gospel is Christ himself. Fr. Fr. The context is the purification of the space thats happening. Andrew: Yeah, what is it about that blood that actually has that purifying effect? They would all say: the gospel of John and the epistle. Fr. We welcome you. Does it have anything to do with suffering or punishment? So the first thing the high priest has to do is he has to, in order to prepare to enter the space, offer a whole ton of incensenot a little, not one scoop. Fr. Sorry, everybody. Time Period Of Vertical Spring Mass System Formula, How Does Baba Change In The Kite Runner, Articles F
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